8/16 Live Feed Discussion

[Davis]

Please use this thread to report and discuss the Big Brother Live Feeds. This means any transcripts, updates, opinions, or commentary relating to the Live Feeds and were gathered on August 16 must be posted in this thread.

Note: This thread is for anyone to post what has taken place on the Live Feeds AND/OR comment and post your opinions of the events in this thread. ANYONE may post, regardless of whether you have the Live Feeds or not. In fact, thread participation is suggested and encouraged! :)


Live Eviction and Live Head of Household Competition is Today!

[MaxxFisher]

If Dustin doesn't throw an insane hisy fit tonight when he leaves I will be sorely disappointed. I hope he is completely blinded-sided

[Davis]

Revised & Edited Conversation from Last Night, Important Eviction Update:

12:00m to 1:15pm BB Time -- Eric and Jessica STRATEGY Session

Eric and Jessica are outside on the lawn chairs (by themselves) discussing everything that they have heard previously today. Not an hour ago, Jessica was in the HoH Room and in the Hot Tub telling various people that the plan to evict Dustin was still on, while Eric has been speaking to Dick and Daniele separately deciding whether to go through with voting to evict Dustin and keep Dick.

The plan is, Dick and Daniele will partner up with Eric and Jessica for a Final 4 agreement. They would rope one other in with them (Jen / Zach) as a vote. The four would powerhouse their way to the end being Jameka can’t compete in HoH Competitions and Amber is an absolute imbecile at challenges.

There are six people voting (and Jessica the HoH breaks a tie) so to keep Dick, there would need to be at least 3 votes to evict Dustin. Daniele (obviously), Eric (potentially), and at least one other of Jen or Zach. Both have said that they will do whatever Jessica would like. Zach especially thinks that he is on the “in” with Jessica (he believes even more so than she is with Eric) so all she has to do is give him the word. Finally, Jen will do whatever it takes to get accepted, and also has told Jess whatever the plan is, she’ll go for it. Amber, Jameka, and Dustin are positively out of the loop and know nothing of the possible Eviction outcome. This should be Good TV.

I transcripted a good majority of the conversation between Eric and Jessica, and then after I realized I had over an hour to go, I began summarizing (the same as a transcript, just not word for word). Enjoy…

Eric: Umm… (about to say something)
Jess: Uh oh, what’s wrong?
Eric: I thought about it and I think we may have made the wrong conclusion--
Jess: --of?
Eric: I think that we should get rid of Dustin
Jess: Really?
Eric: I spoke to Daniele for about an hour--
Jess: --yah I know, which I got questioned about for the entire time
Eric: I’m sure you did, and I thought about it…
-Someone comes outside briefly, interrupts Eric, goes back inside-
Eric: I think we should get rid of Dustin--
Jess: --why?
Eric: Because.. I thought it through…
Jess: Because you know they (the LNC) were asking the whole time, ‘Everything’s alright? Everything’s good?’ and I was like yah.
Eric: Why do you think I haven’t been up there all day? I don’t want to talk about the game with anyone other than you right now. But I thought about it, and I was sort of vague and wishy-washy before, and then I had time to go in and do whatever, take a shower, and process over everything again.
Jess: Yah
Eric: And… I… Ok first of all, Jameka came up to Daniele and proposed to her the all woman’s alliance.
Jess: Na-an!
Eric: Yup, therefore the conversation with Jen that Zach overheard obviously did happen six weeks ago like he said it was.
Jess: Yikes!
Eric: Which I thought was weird to say the least
Jess: She just brought that up out of the blue, like Daniele?
Eric: Yup, I didn’t even have to say anything about it. She said that while she was in the bathroom, and we were all yelling in the HoH Room, she (Jameka) yelled over the balcony, ‘And I still want to talk to you about that women’s alliance’
Jess: This house…
Eric: The way I look at it is this, now that I have thought about it. We didn’t come for the purpose of coming fifth and sixth.
Jess: Right
Eric: And I am trying to figure what the best chance of getting in the Final 4 is, and then from there doing what you got to do
Jess: Mmhmm
Eric: And the way I see it that if Dustin went, and universally across the board, which I think is different for me than last week, because these people have nothing to do with it, like Jen, and Zach, and Kail, blah, blah, blah, blah have all said that he has had deals with them, and have said that he owes things with them, and he is absolutely rubbing people the wrong way, and that he has ideas in place now that I think that we’re not apart of. And then I wish this wasn’t the case, it makes me sad to think so, but Jameka doesn’t have four HoH’s and Amber is just royally garbage
Jess: Haha, I like how we always laugh about that
Eric: Well in terms of competitions.. And Zach he’s f*ing it up too, I don’t know what the hell he’s doing. The way I see it, I hate to phrase it in this way or whatever, but I didn’t come here to be a p**sy, and I didn’t come here to let other people control the whole scope of the game. I planned on being proactive and I planned on making big moves that would just blow the game wide open. And this would be a chance to make a big move that would change things a lot. And I think you have a couple of times in the scope of the game where you can do it. And this is one of them. And we have people who have a reason and a need to do it right now and do it with. I believe that if we do this, that we are two HoH’s away from doing this and it being game over. And the way I see it, in the Final 4, it’s may the best 2 win. And it’s whoever wins HoH and Veto wins, it will be 2-1 going into the Final 3 and whoever can hang on, hangs on. It will probably never be like that anyways. One of the 4 will probably be gone by then, I am sure that Zach, or Jen, or Jameka could be there all the same. Everything changes every week I’m sure. The way I see it though is that you can align with the weak or align with the strong, and there are advantages to both. We could be taking out a huge threat, and you’d rather someone come after you with a knife from the front than from the back, not to use a million clichés but I think there’s honour amongst thieves.
-Jess Laughs-
Eric: That’s like a known expression that a thief wouldn’t rob another thief… Not that we are thieves.
Jess: We are after this week… (short pause) But why should we believe them?
Eric: Because without this, they have nothing else. Dick is going home ninth and Daniele is going home eighth or seventh. They certainly have nothing to lose trying it.
-Jen comes out, interrupts, they send her away-
Eric: I really feel weird…
Jess; Wait, what did she (Daniele) say that he (Dick) didn’t?
Eric: Nothing, I just reflected on it more
Jess: Ohh.
Eric: The one thing that I can say is that from a game stand point, I have always seen eye to eye with Daniele. Well, not when she was coming after me, but from a strategic, like the way we see the purpose of the game, and how to get it done, we always see eye to eye and that allowed for a more intelligent and strategic way to do this. And from how I see it, if we were to do this we have Dick, Daniele, and to an extent Zach or Jen, and we only have to beat Amber next week, otherwise next week we have to go against Daniele which is far more vicious.

I am done transcripting. I see I have at least 30 more minutes to report on. Back to just summarizing. It’s like transcripting, just not word for word. Here we go…

Eric believes that he, Dick, and Daniele can wipe out other four with ease. Amber and Jameka can’t compete, Zach either doesn’t try or sucks, and they have Jen on their side. He mentions that Dick and Daniele want her (Jen) out first, but Eric thinks they could weasel out of evicting Jen first because they don’t feel threatened by her.

Erick thinks that Dustin is coming across as arrogant, in charge, has deals with everyone, and he believes he has already made it to the end. Eric knows for a fact that he (Dustin) has promised him, Dick, and Kail three separate deals with the intention of someone to fall back on.

Eric says that Amber is insanely paranoid, totally useless, insane with theories, and stinks at challenges. Jess says oh my god, laughing. Eric says what kind of ally is she; she sucks, she can’t trust her friends, is crazy, and it pains him to say it but Jameka can’t compete in HoH’s and can’t compete until the end. Eric says that Jess has best chance of winning out of their Final 4, and it’s the best chance for Eric to make it far.

Jess disagrees that she will have a good chance to win the game because she believes that this will lose the respect of Dustin, Amber, and Jameka. Eric says, ‘Who do you think it will fall on?’ (implying himself). Jess says that she was up in the HoH all night telling them everything’s ok, and they will clearly know that she’s apart of this, which she guesses is alright since she IS apart of it, so she will just own up to it. Eric suggests that she just stand up, own up, say it was a strategic move, and that Dustin was a big threat, liar, etc. Jess is worried because she will look like the biggest lair ever after just sitting up there (in the HoH) talking to them.

Eric acknowledges what Jess is saying but adds that he’s not having a fun tonight either, but this is a strategic move. Eric then goes through options; he didn’t come to get sixth place which is how it might stack up for him sticking with the LNC. Amber and Jameka haven’t looked at Eric the same since last week, Dustin is conspiring against all of them, and he doesn’t know what in the world Zach and Jen are doing. Eric is start to think that he (Eric) is washed up and in trouble, and Daniele is really washed up in the same position as he. So since both not going anywhere far in the game at present, and no one came here for purpose of going so early, making this move will only make enemies out of people who cant do anything to him.

Jess agrees but says that she hasn’t had any enemies at all, so this puts it on her. Eric says that he, Dick, and Daniele would be people who could blow up the game more than her, and this isn’t such a bad thing for Jess to stand up and say that ‘you guys thought you knew what you were getting with me, but I am here to win’. Eric says that Jess’ chances of winning are better than Eric’s. But Jess’ chances of winning are even better still if Eric is still here. Eric says that if he goes in two weeks, he wouldn’t be surprised if he saw her the week proceeding. Jess says that she sees what he’s saying. Eric says that if he were in the Final 6 with Dick, Daniele, Zach, and Jess would be so mad (this point seems to get a pretty good reaction from Jess).

Eric wonders about his place in Big Brother, why he was cast. He believes that he was cast as the person who knows Big Brother inside and out. He then goes on to day that he has floated through four weeks, then had a scare, and needs to play the game. Eric says of course they will ruffle some feathers, but feathers of people who can’t strike back. Eric says if no one (of their new group) goes home next week, they are one HoH from the end because Jameka won’t be able to compete, and if they can’t beat Amber, then they don’t deserve to even be here. (:rofl)

Jess wonders how they can trust Dick and Daniele’s word. Eric says they (Dick and Daniele) have no other options, nothing to gain from anything else. Plus they will rope Zach/Jen to bring in to use down the line. Eric says that they (Zach and Jen) will be targeting the rest of the LNC anyways. Eric then assumes that Jess would rather not break the tie in the votes this week, and would prefer a 4-2 vote. There is a pause, and then Jess says that she’s going to end up having to do the tiebreaker anyways, but whatever. Jess asks who everyone will vote for; Jen, Zach, Daniele. Finally Jess asks if Eric will vote out Dustin? He says flat out “YES”. Mission Accomplished. I do believe that Eric and Jessica are officially following the new plan of Evicting Dustin and teaming up with Dick and Daniele!!!

At this point I have stopped transcripting and summarizing. The conversation moves onto more light-hearted subjects. I did not catch everything, and at this point believe that the most important part of the conversation was the first hour anyways. Jess talks about sharing a room with Amber after this, Eric says she can change bedrooms and sleep with him in the Round Room. Eric says that he feels this is the best move to make though because it’s time to take control of the game. Eric says of course it will be awkward with the LNC after but it is a strategic move. Jess is worried that she won’t have any girl friend’s, Eric says that she has Daniele, and who does he have? Its him, Zach, and Dick. They laugh. Eric says that even if this plan backfires and they end up getting evicted, he would rather leave saying he made an impact on the game, and made a move. This is a rare chance to blow up game, and if it works, great, and if it doesn’t “Mexico!!”.

[Davis]

If Dustin doesn't throw an insane hisy fit tonight when he leaves I will be sorely disappointed. I hope he is completely blinded-sided
I agree Maxx. First of all, I have to say (and this may get old, but I don't care :p) Big Brother 8 is having ANOTHER huge turn in the game. It's never a dull moment in the house strategy-wise or drama-wise.

Secondly, my prediction for the Live Show & Aftermath: Dustin will me shocked, fuming, blindsided, and generally angry, Amber will be crying for 36 hours straight, and Jameka will be praying all night long. This is going to be EPIC.

Finally, I am sure that Eric and Jessica's decision to possibly split off from the LNC will rankle the remaining members to the point that if they ever (by some miracle) won HoH, they may nominate Eric or Jessica out of spite!

[Synnamin]

I am happy Dick will remain in the game and Dustin is going but I really don't want Eric to stay around! I also really wanted Jen/Dani to work together.

[CFK]

If Dustin doesn't throw an insane hisy fit tonight when he leaves I will be sorely disappointed. I hope he is completely blinded-sided

It's unlikely he won't find out - Jameth in BB7 was so close to getting blind-sided until he was told at the last minute. And if Jessica wants Jameka to know, I don't know how it won't come back to him :(

I just hope he goes. Then Amber, Zach or Jen for HoH :yay

[MaxxFisher]

There was 0 chance Amber was going to win HOH and even less of a chance if Dustin goes home. She will be so rattled that she will do so badly tonight that she might actually lose the HOH ofr next week at the same time

[Erika]

There was 0 chance Amber was going to win HOH and even less of a chance if Dustin goes home. She will be so rattled that she will do so badly tonight that she might actually lose the HOH ofr next week at the same time
Unless the HoH is 'Who is the Most Idiotic and Moronic Houseguest' I don't see a chance that Amber will EVER win anything. Seriously :lol Has anyone ever listened to her for any period of time on the feeds? I lose brain cells everytime she speaks...I honestly think her IQ is hedging the clinical retardation level (and no disrespect to those that are because she is so awful).

I forget who said it, but someone indicated that they were given some sort of IQ test and Amber freely admitted to only answering 5 of the 50 questions?

[Callie]

Unless the HoH is 'Who is the Most Idiotic and Moronic Houseguest' I don't see a chance that Amber will EVER win anything. Seriously :lol Has anyone ever listened to her for any period of time on the feeds? I lose brain cells everytime she speaks...I honestly think her IQ is hedging the clinical retardation level (and no disrespect to those that are because she is so awful).

I forget who said it, but someone indicated that they were given some sort of IQ test and Amber freely admitted to only answering 5 of the 50 questions?

What an idiot! :rolleyes

Has anyone done a background check on her? How do we know that she's really a cocktail waitress and not a stripper in Vegas?

[Franky]

Has Jessica spoken to Zach and/or Jen about changing the vote to evict Dustin? I was informed on another board that Jessica spoke to Dustin and straight out told him that she would not be voting to evict him. :(

[Erika]

Last night I think she told him before all the talk of this Dick/Daniele new move was made.

I haven't heard that she said anything otherwise today.

I do know that Zach told her to give him some hand signal at the live vote if she wanted to change it :lol

[Franky]

Last night I think she told him before all the talk of this Dick/Daniele new move was made.

I haven't heard that she said anything otherwise today.

I do know that Zach told her to give him some hand signal at the live vote if she wanted to change it :lol

I hope everything goes as planned. I swear each week kills me with suspense more and more. Damn you all houseguests. :lol

[Callie]

The houseguests are all in the HOH room, they've been on lockdown for an hour or so now.

[Davis]

12:00n BB Time -- HoH Room Lockdown Over, Houseguests finally waking up! There hasn't been any strategizing or discussion of any kind being that everyone was locked in the HoH Room and most were sleeping. Hopefully there will now be chatter.

[Davis]

I was informed on another board that Jessica spoke to Dustin and straight out told him that she would not be voting to evict him. :(
If you read the transcript I posted, you would see that she did indeed say all that to the LNC, but her mind was changed 1 hour later by Eric. Additionally, she was worried that people would think she was a liar for telling the LNC that Dick was still going, but she'll deal with it. What you read with Dustin and Jessica most likely happened before Midnight BB Time.

[Franky]

If you read the transcript I posted, you would see that she did indeed say all that to the LNC, but her mind was changed 1 hour later by Eric. Additionally, she was worried that people would think she was a liar for telling the LNC that Dick was still going, but she'll deal with it. What you read with Dustin and Jessica most likely happened before Midnight BB Time.

Thanks so much Davis. I hope everything goes as planned. I can't wait for tonight's episode. I hope Jen & Zach don't mess this up.

[Davis]

1:45pm BB Time -- Zach and Dustin in the Weight Room Discussing the Eviction

Dustin slyly turns the conversation from random junk to tonight's Eviction Vote. He asks Zach what he's planning on doing, and Zach says that he's voting to Evict Dick and keep Dustin. Dustin says that's good because Zach's staying true to 'their deal from early on in the game'. :rofl It's true, Dustin has made deals with everyone. So stupid.

Anyways, the conversation moves forward to how Zach fears Dick and Daniele, Dustin tries and campaigns a little but against Dick, they discuss the future nominations and what will happen depending on who wins HoH, and then finally Dustin ends the conversation somewhat by saying that he isn't scared about tonight, just checking in with Zach as he should since he is on the chopping block.

Before the conversation moves forward, Zach does indeed add that the only way his vote would change would be if Jessica votes differently (or tells Zach to vote differently) putting him in an ultimatum; vote, or you're on your own.

[Franky]

Damn I really hope Jessica talks to him. Like I said, him & Jen could mess everything up.

[Franky]

I'm getting super worried that Jessica won't talk to Zach or Jen about voting Dustin out. When is she planning on doing it?

[Davis]

I'm getting super worried that Jessica won't talk to Zach or Jen about voting Dustin out. When is she planning on doing it?
I am getting a little worried too.

I just read back on several sites the archives of what happened after I fell asleep and before I woke up, and unless something happened while the feeds were inactive (5am to 9:00am) then I believe Eric and Jessica are indeed targetting Dustin.

At this point, it's all in the hands of Zach and Jen. I am not sure if Jen has yet been filled in on the plan. Last we've seen, Jess and Eric are debating telling her. I think they don't plan on filling her in right before the Live Show. Zach told Dustin (as I said) that he's keeping him unless Jess tells him not to (which she hasn't yet) so it's all in the hands of Jen/Zach.

Right now, I do believe Eric and Jess are still going to evict Dustin (of course, we've had Trivia for the last 2.5 hours, so who knows?) so it all comes down to the stragglers: Jen and Zach.


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1:30pm BB Time -- Daniele and Dick in the Round Room

I forgot to post this earlier. Literally 5 minutes before the Feeds went to Trivia, there was a short clip of Dick and Daniele in the Round Room discussing the future Live Show and getting ready.

They wonder if the plan will go through; they of course hope it does. They think it's amazing that they even have a chance of keeping BOTH of them in the house. They are very excited to say the least; Daniele looks nice.

Finally, Dick says that in case the plan doesn't work out, he wants to say how much of a great time he has had with his daughter. He would never pass it off, and it's a memory they will have for the rest of their lives and he hugs her. (:)) I sure hope this works! But seriously, I am not sure which way the Vote will land. I'd like to say that I am 80-20 positive that Dick will stay, but it's more 55-45. :uhh

[Franky]

Now I'm even more worried. Jessica seriously needs to talk to Zach ASAP. Damn now I'm super super super worried.

[Davis]

Now I'm even more worried. Jessica seriously needs to talk to Zach ASAP. Damn now I'm super super super worried.
Well, I feel so cut off from the Big Brother house having had trivia on the Feeds for the past 3 and 1/2 hours. Anything could have happened. For all I know, Jameka or Daniele could have flipped. :p :lol Ok, not going to happen, but still! Anyone could be going home in a 4 hour time limit; anything could have happened.

[Franky]

Well, I feel so cut off from the Big Brother house having had trivia on the Feeds for the past 3 and 1/2 hours. Anything could have happened. For all I know, Jameka or Daniele could have flipped. :p :lol Ok, not going to happen, but still! Anyone could be going home in a 4 hour time limit; anything could have happened.

I'm afraid to even come in here and read this. Haha. I don't want it to say what I don't want to read. :( Did that even make any sense? Haha. I hope everything goes as planned. I guess I'll have to wait for the live show.

[Dennis]

It's very thrilling the way they're doing this! Jessica's HOH rules!

I say we just let her have it again for next week!!! :D

[Davis]

6:10pm BB Time -- All Houseguests in the Kitchen Talking

Amber is quietly doing dishes (she is quiet because of her own account, I don't think that the others are trying to make her feel left out in any way), Jameka is painting her toe nails, Dick is eating, Eric & Jess are in the Living Room, and Daniele, Zach, & Jen are just talking about random discussion.

You have to admit, there is NO boasting from Dick and Daniele. In fact, they are actually just talking like normal. Sure, they aren't UPSET, but they aren't jumping up and down rubbing it in their face. In fact, Dick is being really talkative with Zach and Jen (which has been normal for the last few days).


On another note, I don't think that tonight's Big Brother episode did the strategic genius between D&D vs. LNC vs. E&J. I actually don't think they had too much material in tonight's episode, especially the strategy. I guess if it's not drama, they just don't want to show it. :lol

[Callie]

Dick is saying he gave the "classic farewell speech of all time". This is because of his "I'm only sad that Carol isn't here to give me a good big wet kiss goodbye!" :lol

Jameka is doing her own thing with the perverted cameraman zooming in on her taking off her bra. She's now staying away from the group reading her bible.

Amber is having a breakdown and she's crying in the big bed bedroom. HA!

[Callie]

Dick and Daniele are out in the backyard, and Dick said "OMG! I can NOT believe we pulled it off! Especially with all the s*** I did all week to them! :rofl :rofl :rofl"

Which is SO true! The morning of Dick banging the pot over Dustin's head... who could of guessed that Dick would still be here tonight on Thursday night? :lol

[Dennis]

Well, what Dick doesn't know is that were it not for the AP twist, he'd be gone. His strategy in the game was really stupid to act that way. Of course, he had given up at that point and was really just trying to insure that Dani would stay over him.

[Callie]

Daniele showed off her new HOH room. They gave her the same picture of her and her grandmother... but every other picture is new!

Get this... NICK wrote her her letter, and not her boyfriend! :love

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d181/CallieCutie/Lettersoflove.jpg

[Synnamin]

I don't even think she got a picture from her boyfriend. This guy is so dumped.

[Erika]

Amber and Jameka are outside talking and they don't even seem phased that Dustin left :lol They are all on the God train :rofl Amber had a dream beating Dick in a veto - their visions are prophetic and whatnot is the discussion.

Entirely idiotic nonsense!

[Erika]

The plan of Daniele's at the moment is:

Nominate Jameka and Amber and backdoor Jen.

Daniele is SET on evicting Jen this week.

[Dennis]

So DIRTY!!!

:lol

[Erika]

So DIRTY!!!

:lol
Yeah, Daniele had Jen's back alright :rofl - 'who's the liar now bitch!' - to quote one Jameka!

[Dennis]

To quote Jameka even more...

Your mutha and your daughta!

[Franky]

The plan of Daniele's at the moment is:

Nominate Jameka and Amber and backdoor Jen.

Daniele is SET on evicting Jen this week.

That's my girl. Hope all goes as planned and Jen walks out that door. It would be the best move for her. :woo

[Callie]

Eric and Jessica have to cross dress while playing beer pong (due to losing a previous bet).

Be forewarned... these pictures aren't for the weak!

Eric having to "adjust" himself:
http://i15.tinypic.com/4kbabz8.jpg

Eric having to pull down the dress so he doesn't "expose" himself:
http://i18.tinypic.com/6bvwot1.jpg

Eric bending over:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4q72old.jpg

Eric throwing in a dress:
http://i14.tinypic.com/630gx2s.jpg

[Erika]

Jen was up in the HoH talking to Dick and Daniele and says:

The 'place they are not supposed to talk about' (the DR) they where obviously wanting to keep Dick over Dustin by pointing out all the reasons to keep Dick. They cut away quickly and the PA came on and said to 'Jen Stop That!'

So, there you go BB Viewers - I heard it myself and this week instead of benefiting Eric - it benefited Dick - are you outraged? Doubt it :lol

[Brendan]

Jen was up in the HoH talking to Dick and Daniele and says:

The 'place they are not supposed to talk about' (the DR) they where obviously wanting to keep Dick over Dustin by pointing out all the reasons to keep Dick. They cut away quickly and the PA came on and said to 'Jen Stop That!'

So, there you go BB Viewers - I heard it myself and this week instead of benefiting Eric - it benefited Dick - are you outraged? Doubt it :lol

Not really. After all, Eric flipped because of America, and Jen and Zach were on the fence the whole time. It was not a MAJOR turn-on-a-dime sort of thing. ;) But yea, I'm not a fan of meddling producers but I doubt their influence was needed as much this week as it was before. (When LNC just magically changed their tune...)

Amazingly, without Dustin there... I'm actually not minding anyone in the house. I guess he had those negative vibes that Jen was talking about. Tonight the house was civil and I guess that affects how I feel about people. I did notice that Jen was interrupting lots of conversations and even snooped at the stuff in Daniele's bag while they were cleaning up the spilled shampoo. Tsk tsk, Jen. Nobody likes a pushy hamster. It was a fun night though with beer pong and cross dressing and I hope that things can stay fun for a few days at least.