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Old 02-28-2009, 03:17 AM   #1
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The Bachelor 13: Jason - Spoiling the After the Final Rose Shows
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Spoiling the After the Final Rose Shows
To be clear, I want to state this upfront. Jason Mesnick is a complete jerk in my opinion. I liked him on DeAnna's season, but what you will see on Monday and Tuesday night will give you all an better idea of what a complete wretch he actually is. I also want to be clear that I do not know his motivations, but I do suspect that greed won out over human decency, with Jason lacking any shred of the latter.

ABC's Press Release for Finale and The After the Final Rose Ceremonies reads:


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In this gripping special conclusion, Jason prepares to make one of the most difficult decisions of this life. With his search for love now narrowed down to Melissa and Molly, Jason brings his son, Ty, to New Zealand to meet the remaining two women. The bachelorettes are also introduced to his family. Finally, the women lay their hearts on the line, each trying to guarantee that she will be the one to get Jason's final rose. But the Bachelor is stunned when DeAnna, the woman who broke his heart, shows up in New Zealand to see him. In one of the most romantic and dramatic moments in "Bachelor" history, Jason makes a decision that will change his life forever, on the season finale of "The Bachelor," MONDAY, MARCH 2 (8:00-10:02 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

Jason's proposal to the love of his life was one of the most romantic moments in Bachelor history, but no one is prepared for what happens when Jason and the final two women return to the studio for "The Bachelor: After the Final Rose." Emotions run high at the unexpected and shocking ending of Jason's journey to find true love, on the one-hour special, "The Bachelor: After the Final Rose," MONDAY, MARCH 2 (10:02-11:00 p.m., ET).

The handsome single dad hopes that by seeing each of the two women with his son, Ty, now age four, he will see how they interact with him and offer a hint as to how the three of them would mesh as a future family.

The bachelorettes must also rise to the occasion with Jason's family - his parents, two brothers and his sister-in-law - as they confront both women with some serious questions. All of which is no surprise, as they are understandably concerned about Jason since his experience with DeAnna. But Jason has a touching heart-to-heart talk with his mother about how strong his feelings are for both women.

Jason takes Melissa for a sailing trip in the stunning Bay of Islands. Then, on one last intimate evening at her place, Melissa tells Jason that her parents are willing to talk to him over the phone and tries her best to make sure Jason knows how strongly she feels about him. Then Molly invites Jason to her place for a home-cooked meal and a massage - a preview of how great their married life would be. She opens up her heart, determined to show Jason the depth of her feelings.

And if Jason isn't confused enough about his feelings for Melissa and Molly, he is totally unprepared when DeAnna surprises him by visiting him in New Zealand. After their intense talk, Jason is more torn than ever. He considers the impact each woman would have on Ty's life, as well as his own. Will he risk getting his heart broken again? Or will he finally find the true love of his life?

The remaining two women are:

Melissa, 25, a sales representative from Dallas, TX
Molly, 24, a department store buyer from Grand Rapids, MI
The Final Rose

Many sleuthers, like myself have analyzed screenshots from the beginning of this season to determine who would be staying each week. In the opening episode the preview of the season seemed to be a dead give-a-way at who Jason gave his final rose and marriage proposal to. From the screenshots below, that were taken from the season preview, it is clear, even to the untrained eye that Melissa is the person he is proposing to.

Here are the screenshots of the two women at the final rose ceremony, just released in the previews for this Monday's Finale:


At the start of the season the previews gave us the following two snippets of the proposal scene:


As you can see the style of the dress of the girl being proposed to is the same as the dress Melissa is wearing. The color is different, but for many seasons now the editors of the show have done things like this to try and throw off the sleuthers. It's my belief though, they knew when they released these previews that it wouldn't take anytime for us sleuthers to realize Melissa received the final rose and the proposal at the shows conclusion. In addition to the dress style, we also see that the hand of the girl wearing the ring is that of Melissa's. The freckle on her arm matches that of other screenshots we've seen again and again. In addition Melissa is in the perfect position to receive the proposal as the ring will go on her left hand and the camera would want to be on that side in order to get that shot. Molly, from the screenshot is facing in the opposite direction.

So great, we've figured out that Melissa is proposed to - this was accomplished the first episode. Obviously when the producers released these previews they knew exactly what they were doing. They knew that we would figure out Melissa was the final girl. What they didn't know is that a blogger named Reality Steve would get inside information that would make us really question what the final outcome of the story would be.

The After The Final Rose Ceremony Part 1

Reality Steve broke the news to us two weeks ago, as he stated that Melissa is dumped by Jason at the filming of the first After the Final Rose Ceremony, which was taped at the end of January of this year. The finale in New Zealand though was taped at the end of November of last year. Reality Steve also stated that Melissa gets dumped for Molly. Jason actually wants to pursue a relationship with the girl he dumped in New Zealand!

Those that attended the taping of the second part of the After the Final Rose Ceremony yesterday, Friday, February 27 have leaked out all the information, as they viewed both the final episode in which Jason proposes to Melissa and the first After the Rose Ceremony in which he dumps Melissa for Molly. The details provided are of course rumors until they are proven, but I believe that they are indeed one-hundred percent true.

Watch this clip from Jason's appearance on 'The View' on Friday, February 27th:


This is a VERY DIFFERENT Jason than the one that did the following interview which took place in December of last year, well before the First After the Final Rose Ceremony was taped:

Jason Mesnick: "My Fiancee is AMAZING!"

Well I guess at the time, she was AMAZING?!? Still, on the first After the Final Rose Ceremony, which was taped on a closed set, Jason first comes out and then Melissa is brought out and according to the rumors, she comes out looking a bit upset or worried. Jason breaks the news to her that he has not gotten over Molly and ends their engagement. Melissa asks him pointblank if he's been seeing Molly during the time they were engaged and Jason says no. I tend to believe he has myself and there are email exchanges between them circulating on the internet that give credence to it. She is upset, understandably tells him she wants no contact with him and leaves the set and then rides off in a limo talking to the camera.

Molly is brought out under the guise of confronting the man that broke her heart in New Zealand. Jason reveals to her that he can't stop thinking about her and wants to pursue a relationship with her. Molly questions what happened with Melissa and Jason says that he understands if she doesn't want to get engaged, but he wants to pursue their relationship. Molly says she'll give it a go because her feelings haven't changed since New Zealand.


The After the Final Rose Ceremony Part 2

The first things we learn are about DeAnna's appearance on the show. Apparently two weeks after her break-up with Jesse, DeAnna does indeed come to see Jason in New Zealand and she actually IS THERE to ask him to come back to her. I was skeptical about her reason for being there from the get-go, but apparently she will be there to try to get him back, just as it appears in the previews. I don't personally believe DeAnna wanted him back, I actually believe this was a ploy by the producers to create more drama and I'm sure DeAnna was paid for her appearance.

The other interesting thing is that the much talked about shot of Jason crying over the edge of the balcony in New Zealand is actually just after he rejects Molly and proposes to Melissa. I don't know what to say other than if that was his natural reaction to dumping Molly, he had no business proposing to anyone that day.


Some of the girls from the show are also at this taping including: Naomi, Stephanie, Nikki, Erica and Kari. They answer some questions about how they feel about the outcome. Chris Harrison also reads a letter from Melissa because she is not present at the taping and it indicates that she is doing just fine.

Jason comes out and defends himself and thought it was the right decision to go with his heart. My problem is not that Jason went with his heart, my problem is that he decided to dump Melissa on TV, rather than in private. There was no reason in the world this had to be done on television. None. I am also of the belief that Jason went along with the producers for monetary reasons and chose Melissa, though he knew he wanted to be with Molly. It makes no sense to me otherwise, especially given that he dumped Melissa on television.

Later in the taping, Molly comes out and talks a bit and then the 'happy couple' are reunited. Molly is planning to move to Seattle and they are really just one happy couple. Jason seems upset that people are saying bad things about Molly and Molly confirms that she is not pregnant. Finally, Chris offers them a tent as a parting gift.

At the close of the taping, Jillian comes out and is announced as the next Bachelorette. I really like Jillian, but I am very worried about her role as the next Bachelorette and what may come of it.


Final Analysis

Well this is actually the most shocking end to any Bachelor/ette season I've ever seen and I have indeed seen them all. I am firmly of the belief that Reality Steve was right and this whole ending was forced or rather offered to Jason for compensation. I mean to shock us they really couldn't pull another Brad or even do the Charlie O'Connell thing...this was one thing that we have yet to see on this show - the Bachelor dumping the Final 1 for the Final 2.

To say I'm disappointed would be an understatement, but I guess in the scope of things I really shouldn't be. It's just that I am one of the many viewers of this show that really do hope for the fairy tale ending. I think it's possible to meet your soulmate anywhere and heck, why not on a reality show? Rob and Amber did it? The person I am most disappointed in though is Jason. He knew exactly what he was signing up for when he became the Bachelor and he knew or should have known that to publicly humiliate another human being, especially one you claim to love, is cruel and not something the public will quickly forgive.

I've noticed some other interesting things have come up as a result of the ending we all know is coming. If you look back at the episodes and how they were edited it's clear that Melissa was portrayed as the sweetheart that was always in the bad relationships with the wrong guys and getting dumped. We heard that again and again. The cruelest joke of all is that even after being proposed to she still somehow becomes the girl dumped. On the other hand we were shown a very cold Molly, who may be very different from what we see on the screen, though I tend to doubt it since all the eliminated women seem to not have formed much of a bond with her. Her portrayal on the show leads me to believe the producers certainly knew which direction the story was headed. They wanted to make her the villain in this and the other woman and that is indeed exactly what they have done. She comes out looking like not only a villain, but a complete idiot for taking Jason back.

I aslo believe that prior to springing the news on Melissa that she was dumped, the producers already had set their sights on using her for the next installment of the Bachelorette. They wanted us to like her and feel for her after this season was complete, much the same way we felt for poor Jason, after DeAnna's season. I am really, really happy that she didn't play with them on this one and has moved on. I am still struggling to come up for a basis for a good lawsuit for Melissa for the entire fiasco, but it's tough. I do think she does deserve a lot more than what she got out of this and in the end one day I think she'll be happy that she didn't end up with the loser from the Bachelor.

I guess I'm being very critical, but hey, it's my perogative because these people signed up and have now become very public figures. In the end I think that Jason is a loser of a person. He may think that winning Molly in the end was all he needed, but I think he will realize one day that it's pretty lonely going once you've sold your own dignity out for a price. What a terrible, terrible role model he is and as for Molly she's really not striking me as much better. One thing I can say is that she's got terrible taste in men.

Do you think Jason's a big jerk or the nice dad who followed his heart?
Please feel free to post comments or you may email me at Erika@TVFunSpot.com


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Old 02-28-2009, 05:01 AM   #2
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Do you think Jason's a big jerk or the nice dad who followed his heart?
If all this happens, then complete jerk. There is no problem following your heart, but I completely agree that it's tasteless to do a public dumping. So tasteless.

Thanks for the info on what will happen in the After the Rose Erika!!

As for Molly, no opinion on her right now. I don't dislike her yet. She was pitted against very charming ladies in Jillian and Melissa, so she doesn't come off good as them. I've seen nothing wrong with her on the show though. Dunno in the after the rose.

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Why would Melissa ever agree to doing a Bachelorette season? No matter if the viewers liked her and that's actually what they were grooming her for, unless she was in on this whole charade, how could anyone in their right mind go through with that after they've been duped?

Also, Erika, how do you have all this inside info? It's so cool! And, I have actually been searching for those e-mails, ever since I saw RealitySteve make a mention of them? Do you know where I could find them online. Just wondering.
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If this is indeed true, a gentleman would having done the breaking up behind the scenes so as not to humiliate Melissa anymore than she would have to be. Of course, I'm sure the producers wanted to make sure we could see every dirty bit of it. Shame on them!
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"The other interesting thing is that the much talked about shot of Jason crying over the edge of the balcony in New Zealand is actually just after he rejects Molly and proposes to Melissa. I don't know what to say other than if that was his natural reaction to dumping Molly, he had no business proposing to anyone that day."

ITA Erika! I do believe that someone CAN fall in love with two people, especially under these circumstances however............ when you are put in a situation where you are forced to choose only one, one would think there was no way in the world you could propose.
I always thought this season was going to be lame as I never found Jason to be interesting, hot, or anyone that I would be attracted to, he was a bore. (imo) At least the girls made it fun to watch for me. Now I have to say that I really am sorry he was chosen because Melissa seems like the girl next store and of course her heart had to be hurting and to be humiliated on national TV just made it worse. Who does that??? Jason is an idiot and I hope Molly breaks his heart in the end. It's just too bad that Ty is involved in this mess.

Loved reading your opinion, thanks for keeping it real!
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"The other interesting thing is that the much talked about shot of Jason crying over the edge of the balcony in New Zealand is actually just after he rejects Molly and proposes to Melissa. I don't know what to say other than if that was his natural reaction to dumping Molly, he had no business proposing to anyone that day."

ITA Erika! I do believe that someone CAN fall in love with two people, especially under these circumstances however............ when you are put in a situation where you are forced to choose only one, one would think there was no way in the world you could propose.
I always thought this season was going to be lame as I never found Jason to be interesting, hot, or anyone that I would be attracted to, he was a bore. (imo) At least the girls made it fun to watch for me. Now I have to say that I really am sorry he was chosen because Melissa seems like the girl next store and of course her heart had to be hurting and to be humiliated on national TV just made it worse. Who does that??? Jason is an idiot and I hope Molly breaks his heart in the end. It's just too bad that Ty is involved in this mess.

Loved reading your opinion, thanks for keeping it real!
I have felt the same way from the beginning. I'm glad DeAnna dumped him LOL (and I didn't really like her either). think you meant next door
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I have felt the same way from the beginning. I'm glad DeAnna dumped him LOL (and I didn't really like her either). think you meant next door
Thanks for pointing that out my friend! lolol Muah!
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Thanks for pointing that out my friend! lolol Muah!
Ha! Haley told me I'm old and you used slang!
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I will be disappointed, sad and mad if what is being said is true of Jason and his finding his "true love". You do not propose, get engaged, break a persons heart on National TV for any reason. I do believe you might be able to fall in love with 2 people esp in a situation like this show, but, there is a difference in being in "love" when you know it is with the one for you. Either they are all in on this to boost the show and ratings or Jason is a horrible person and the women must really be lonely to go on TV and think what happenes is acceptable. I will not be watching the show again, if he actually proposes to Melissa and then to Molly the next night. I don't see any reason to continue to watch the show if it can let something so cruel be aired on TV. To think I really liked Jason and his devotion to his son, but whether Ty is old enough or not to know what is going on is not the point. His father will be a jerk and someday Ty will find that out as he grows older. I hope I (and the rest of the population) am wrong and that the SHOCKING ending will be something else all together!
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I'm hoping the most shocking ending ever will be something else too.
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Brad is coming out of this looking better and better ... although I agreed with him at the time, too. Chris Harrison, ABC and most of the public basically trashed the man for doing the right thing.
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Brad is coming out of this looking better and better ... although I agreed with him at the time, too. Chris Harrison, ABC and most of the public basically trashed the man for doing the right thing.
That made me upset too LadyT - I thought Brad of all the Bachelors made a good decision - a decision that was right for him. I was one of the few that defended what he did too

So you don't see a future with any of the 25 women they put on there...I mean really, the odds are against it to begin with.
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You can't fall in true love on a darn reality show. If any of you think you can then let the producers put it to the "real" test. Let's have a Bachelor or Bacherlette who's like 60 over...a Widow, or Widower, or an old person who's never been married.

But then again, there wouldn't be young beautiful people to look at.

Personally though, I think that would a great show!!

Why do the Bachelor or Bacherlette have to be "young"????
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I would have to say that I do think it's possible to fall in love on a reality show. I think if it's meant to be, the chemistry and attraction is going to be there regardless of where you are. I feel terrible for Melissa and where I was once a fan of Jason, I will no longer be if all these rumors hold true! GRRR, I thought finally it was going to turn out the way I hoped it would!
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You can't fall in true love on a darn reality show. If any of you think you can then let the producers put it to the "real" test. Let's have a Bachelor or Bacherlette who's like 60 over...a Widow, or Widower, or an old person who's never been married.

But then again, there wouldn't be young beautiful people to look at.

Personally though, I think that would a great show!!

Why do the Bachelor or Bacherlette have to be "young"????
I would watch it! They probably would have better odds of making a match that works if they did a Widow or Widower at least they know they aren't afraid of commitment. I'm sure there are plenty attractive 40 50 and 60 year olds who have lost a spouse. I know they tried a older Bachelor season, but he wasn't that old and some of the women were young. Besides the fact, he was a tool!
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